Bug 3056 - broken Umlaut in Subject show Message in new Thread
Summary: broken Umlaut in Subject show Message in new Thread
Status: RESOLVED INVALID
Alias: None
Product: Claws Mail (GTK 2)
Classification: Unclassified
Component: NNTP (show other bugs)
Version: 3.9.3
Hardware: PC Linux
: P3 normal
Assignee: users
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Reported: 2014-01-12 15:18 UTC by Arno Lutz
Modified: 2014-01-16 20:25 UTC (History)
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Description Arno Lutz 2014-01-12 15:18:01 UTC 
in the Messagelist a Message shon in in new Thread if have incorrect german Umlaut.(Attachment)
Normally it should follow the Message-ID and not on the text in Subject.

Answerpostings to such Message will follow them.

I test this in other NR like KNode. There show correct. 

Regards
Arno
Comment 1 Arno Lutz 2014-01-12 15:19:39 UTC 
Created attachment 1316 [details]
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Comment 2 Paul 2014-01-12 16:14:36 UTC 
it's probably the case the References header is broken or missing in the news post that breaks the thread. Without actually seeing the headers of the news posts there's not much more I can say.
Comment 3 Paul 2014-01-12 17:48:25 UTC 
Having now had the opportunity to test this myself, I can now close this as WORKSFORME.

If you have further info to demonstrate your particular scenario and verify your report, then re-open.
Comment 4 Arno Lutz 2014-01-12 20:22:52 UTC 
The Message-Header bevore split in Claws:
Path: newsspool4.arcor-online.net!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!newsspool4.arcor-online.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!news.qsc.de!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
From: Gregor Frowein <Gregor.Frowein@t-online.de>
Newsgroups: de.rec.fotografie
Subject: Re: NMZ: Wir machen Holzköpfen Dampf!
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 07:34:04 +0100
Organization: Just me 'n the pygmy pony
Lines: 29
Message-ID: <bv4vc9p90961vccs7mk20e1aaat620o42r@4ax.com>
References: <lanh2s$4p8$1@news2.open-news-network.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: individual.net UpEf8YRjXM6B3X+V6+MDlggKGypmGB2vaAG0gNjbosyzmLG+Jw
Cancel-Lock: sha1:1tUVHNcyQhv0cP4GDjpEeukYqvg=
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186
Xref: newsspool4.arcor-online.net de.rec.fotografie:1153018

Uwe Borchert schrieb:
_____________________________________________________

next correct Message-Header (one of the answers):
Path: newsspool4.arcor-online.net!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!newsspool4.arcor-online.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!news.unit0.net!news.on-luebeck.de!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!news.tota-refugium.de!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: Ronald Pfeiffer <ronald.pfeiffer@gmx.de>
Newsgroups: de.rec.fotografie
Subject: Re: NMZ: Wir machen =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Holzk=F6pfen_Dampf!?=
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 11:40:18 +0100
Organization: TOTA
Lines: 16
Message-ID: <laoimi$n18$1@tota-refugium.de>
References: <lanh2s$4p8$1@news2.open-news-network.org> <bv4vc9p90961vccs7mk20e1aaat620o42r@4ax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: tota-refugium.de 1389350418 23592 eJwFwQkRADAIAzBLfC1MDmyHfwlL4FTeDIKBxUoSMns9WuclxIBnS5h2dLm1X84eLc5Ung8N5RCZ (10 Jan 2014 10:40:18 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: abuse@news.tota-refugium.de
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 10:40:18 +0000 (UTC)
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0
X-User-ID: eJwFwYEBwCAIA7CXitCi50zA/09YQpepMkQFH5/tZMxF0+5CaJTdrpyytVgF+MY3Z6Nh7ecHCo8QYA==
In-Reply-To: <bv4vc9p90961vccs7mk20e1aaat620o42r@4ax.com>
Cancel-Lock: sha1:Cr9vFvHFhLcXE0vJ1XGts48E0Lk=
X-NNTP-Posting-Host: eJwFwYEBwCAIBLGZRDlwnILP/iM08c2i4+AcHx9FE1nWn/ZTlURfYpmBbQ358JqnC502PzW/EeA=
Xref: newsspool4.arcor-online.net de.rec.fotografie:1153050

Hallo,

On 10.01.14 07:34, Gregor Frowein wrote:
__________________________________________________________

the Message-Header shown in Claw as new thread (answer to first, bevore split):
Path: newsspool4.arcor-online.net!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news-1.dfn.de!news.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
From: Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de>
Newsgroups: de.rec.fotografie
Subject: Re: NMZ: Wir machen Holzköpfen Dampf!
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 13:40:36 +0100
Lines: 21
Message-ID: <bja824Fcn10U1@mid.individual.net>
References: <lanh2s$4p8$1@news2.open-news-network.org> <bv4vc9p90961vccs7mk20e1aaat620o42r@4ax.com>
Reply-To: wky2704@gmx.de
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: individual.net rNjeug08s8CAgDSVO8pSuwT8HrJARWrKrNsokr88YEwqks97iO
Cancel-Lock: sha1:EZ4RuZORpflWVVND9Gxz1UELKQk=
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572
Xref: newsspool4.arcor-online.net de.rec.fotografie:1153094

On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 07:34:04 +0100, Gregor Frowein
<Gregor.Frowein@t-online.de> wrote:
_________________________________________________

hope this Info help

Regards
Arno
Comment 5 Paul 2014-01-13 08:28:20 UTC 
It's nothing to do with a broken umlaut. Claws does not rely solely upon the Subject for threading. In fact, Claws does not rely on the Subject for threading at all unless you turn on the option to also consider the Subject.

Probably the thread is broken because a news post from that thread is missing.
Comment 6 Paul 2014-01-13 08:44:22 UTC 
I found an nntp server that has this group, and therefore I can verify that the thread is broken because the parent of the reply in missing. In Claws this breaks the thread.
Comment 7 Arno Lutz 2014-01-15 00:42:42 UTC 
(In reply to comment #6)
> I found an nntp server that has this group, and therefore I can verify that
> the thread is broken because the parent of the reply in missing. In Claws
> this breaks the thread.

here the Header from OP:
Path: newsspool1.arcor-online.net!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news.babsi.de!open-news-network.org!news2.open-news-network.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: Uwe Borchert <wetterfrosch@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: de.rec.fotografie
Subject: NMZ: Wir machen =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Holzk=F6pfen_Dampf!?=
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 02:06:28 +0100
Organization: news.babsi.de for open-news-network.org
Lines: 25
Message-ID: <lanh2s$4p8$1@news2.open-news-network.org>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p57b1a79f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: news2.open-news-network.org 1389315997 4904 87.177.167.159 (10 Jan 2014 01:06:37 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: abuse@open-news-network.org
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 01:06:37 +0000 (UTC)
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100328 Thunderbird/2.0.0.24 Mnenhy/0.7.6.0
Xref: newsspool1.arcor-online.net de.rec.fotografie:1153011

i didnt find them with Claws-Mail too!
Use Knode (same News-Account:news.arcor.de)

Regards 
Arno
Comment 8 Paul 2014-01-15 09:13:15 UTC 
(In reply to comment #7)

That's irrelevant now. However, this was because of the 'Maximum number of articles to download' option on the account preferences, 'Receive' page. Set this higher than the default and the parent message would have been fetched. No need for knode.
Comment 9 Arno Lutz 2014-01-16 20:25:16 UTC 
> That's irrelevant now. However, this was because of the 'Maximum number of
> articles to download' option on the account preferences, 'Receive' page. Set
> this higher than the default and the parent message would have been fetched.

i do this, from 100 to 500: nothing changed!
No older Message will load.

For test i canceled this group and subscribe anew. Do this at 15.1
Now dont catch messages older then 14.1 !


> No need for knode.
sure, Claws is even better.
But...in Knode works.

In memory: both use same News-account.

Regards
Arno
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